Success is Subjective: Helping parents of college students accept that dropping out is okay

Episode 4 — It’s Okay to Go Off The Main Path — with John Tobias

February 19, 2020 Joanna Lilley, MA, NCC Season 1 Episode 4
Success is Subjective: Helping parents of college students accept that dropping out is okay
Episode 4 — It’s Okay to Go Off The Main Path — with John Tobias
Show Notes

1,000’s of students paired with one type of schooling system doesn’t always mesh well. Many students go through their entire education feeling less than and not smart ‘enough’. They end up getting left feeling discouraged, struggling to find passion and inspiration in life.

John Tobias, founder of Red Cedar Transitions, never quite felt ‘good enough’ for school until he was 32. As a young adult, John went into college with zero focus and direction, hoping it would all magically become clear one day. That outlook didn’t serve him very well in college. Once he failed out of three colleges, he was able to finally find true inspiration and passion in his years of work in Wilderness Programs. When he decided to go back to school in his 30’s, he was able to put to rest all of the deep self doubt he had of himself on whether he was smart enough to pull it all off. He ended up pulling it all off so well that he acquired a masters degree and became a young adult therapist for a Wilderness Therapy Program. John now works with young adults at his own Wilderness Therapy company, showing them how to apply their full potential and abilities in the real world.

On this episode of Success is Subjective, John joins Joanna to share his journey as he learned to navigate feeling like school would never work for him, to eventually getting his Master’s degree at the age of 32 to pursue his passion in Wilderness Therapy. John’s story is proof that there is no perfect time for college and that it can always wait. Listen in for insight on how John ended up starting his own company where he leads young adults into building life skills and shows that the main path, whether in life or in nature, isn’t always the only way.

What You Will Learn

  • How school made Seth feel all his life
  • How the mainstream path seemed to be the right one when going into college
  • Seth’s 3 attempts at college
  • The narrative Seth had of himself
  • What Seth did after college with the wilderness
  • When Seth found something he truly enjoyed in life
  • What led Seth to go back to school at 32
  • The difference in Seth’s perspective of school 
  • The importance of knowing that college isn’t going anywhere
  • The narrative that changed for Seth
  • When Seth found it clear that he wanted to be a therapist
  • What led Seth to start his own company in the industry
  • What things Seth wanted to bring to Wilderness Therapy for young adults and their families
  • The importance of building life skills in the real world 
  • How Seth’s past struggles as a young adults now allow him to fully connect with the young adults he serves
  • The importance of being flexible with the college narrative for yourself
  • How valuable being active in the world and growing in experience is

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